Clothing should be free not expensive

[Kokonoe]

40k is a very steep price new players on a server of this size. Though even if it were larger with a bigger economy, charging these prices just makes fashion less accessible. 

The grind should be going after 10/10 weapons and rare drops not fashion. 

So my suggestion is to lower the price of clothing to free or something low like 1000 meseta. 

Thank you.

Edited May 13, 2019 by Kokonoe

[Noodles]

40k very quickly becomes inconsequential once you start seeing A-rank weapons drop. They sell from 18-50k a piece. Mission clear meseta rewards are also quite good as you transition out of C ranks.

[Matt]

1 weapon drop is 33k-50k in B rank missions. There aren't enough money sinks in the game right now so clothing prices are fine. 

[Crizhalid]

Fashion is very much accessible once you've invested time and effort into the game. The more missions you complete, the more meseta you will earn. You will eventually hit a point where you will have enough to completely buy out the shops if you so choose. Considering there are very few but far steeper meseta sinks, this is quite light in comparison. 

Sorry to make it sound as if your request was belittled, but it is unfortunately the reality of the situation.

[Dia]

Lowering the prices is simply too unpopular and wouldn't go over well... I personally would rather see more options for clothes you pick when originally creating a character (though I don't know how other people feel about it.)

Trust me though, after a few hours of playing, you'll be able to afford clothes. Just keep running Unsafe Passage B for a while... you'll get lots o' money then!  And who knows, maybe I'll pop in and help you! 

[Midori Hoshi]

Like others have said, clothing prices are already very affordable after you've played for a few days and leveled up a bit. 40k is almost nothing later on.

[Kokonoe]

I don't want to have to play for a few days just to wear clothes. I want to look how I want to look from the start and play that way.

I don't see why this has to be a "money sink" or that time must be allocated to this. This isn't fun or a achievement or anything it's a inconvenience. I'd have a much more fun time looking how I want to look from the beginning and grinding out the actual content and farming rare drops and leveling up. It helps when you are constantly losing your save file from server wipes not having to repeat this process from the start.

Looking how I wish to look actually gives me incentive to play the game not looking like a hobo or something. Just saying. 

[Redtear]

from what i seen clothing prices are perfectly fine, then again i didnt think there was anyone left who cared about how they looked lol

[Parallaxed]

30 minutes ago, Kokonoe said:

Looking how I wish to look actually gives me incentive to play the game not looking like a hobo or something. Just saying. 

How can you not see that as incentive already.

As others have stated, 40k is literally made in about an hours worth of playtime above level 25, you just need to go and do it. 

[Matt]

4 hours ago, Kokonoe said:

I don't want to have to play for a few days just to wear clothes. I want to look how I want to look from the start and play that way.

Are you new to the MMO genre? 

[Kyu]

Clothing should definitely not be free (or lowered). Most of the clothes in the clothing shop couldn't even be obtained for meseta on the official server, making them harder to get. I understand fashion is an important part of the game for some people to look unique from others, but that should be more than enough incentive to want to play the game to get the look you want. In the future, I would love to put some clothes and such in the casino as an alternative way for people to get them, but we haven't decided anything regarding that yet.

[KAMIGENO]

I think clothes should be more reasonably price. They're a bit too pricey.

The thing is, yes, the money for clothes becomes seemingly inconsequential later on, but that's much later on. I think too many people are looking at this from the perspective of "I'm a fair bit later on in the game, so it doesn't affect me much".

Should they be free? The ones that are available from selection---yes for these. Others? No, but definitely not be 40000 for almost anything, in my opinion.

Clothing is an important part of self and player expression, and it does not have a mechanical impact on game-play, so I personally think a lot of them should be cheaper (and again, free for the options that were available from the start).

[Matt]

33 minutes ago, KAMIGENO said:

"I'm a fair bit later on in the game, so it doesn't affect me much".

I made a new character last week and was able to afford a full set of clothing in less than 2 hours. 

[KAMIGENO]

3 hours ago, Matt said:

I made a new character last week and was able to afford a full set of clothing in less than 2 hours. 

There are a few possible answers to this:

• You could have given meseta from a different character on your account to your current character.
• You could have partaken in the Protectors Kappa event that happened recently, which gives out quite a bit of money.
• Others a higher level than you could have given you the meseta and/or went to missions that provide high amounts of money if you had the appropriate level to match them.
• Income earned through the player shop involving items provided by one of the above methods.

Were any of these things that you did? Or did you choose to invest quite a few hours into the game consistently? That would seem like a large amount of time spent to afford some clothing options, plus you have not specified how much meseta you made, so we do not know how many articles of clothing (nor what articles of clothing) nor outfits you could have procured.

Plus this sort of thing could be argued as status on the live PSU servers, where as it doesn't really need to be considered that on PSUC.

[Matt]

12 minutes ago, KAMIGENO said:

You could have given meseta from a different character on your account to your current character.

Nope.

 

12 minutes ago, KAMIGENO said:

You could have partaken in the Protectors Kappa event that happened recently, which gives out quite a bit of money.

I said last week so nope.

 

12 minutes ago, KAMIGENO said:

Others a higher level than you could have given you the meseta and/or went to missions that provide high amounts of money if you had the appropriate level to match them.

I solo'd so nope.

 

12 minutes ago, KAMIGENO said:

Income earned through the player shop involving items provided by one of the above methods.

Nope, all my money came from vendoring B rank and A rank items.

[Emmarel]

Once meseta rewards were implemented into the server (about 3k+ per mission on C-Rank iirc), getting 40k for outfits, basic gear, PAs, etc became a hell of a lot easier. Albeit, I don't think spamming unsafe passage is ideal, but that's a completely different topic. Point of the matter is 40k for those cosmetics is fine. However, the body style ticket being 500k is quite ridiculous. I'd say 100k~250k would be more reasonable.

[Matt]

Just now, Emmarel said:

the body style ticket being 500k is quite ridiculous.

I think it's a fair price considering you can use it an infinite amount of times. It's also tradable. 

[Emmarel]

1 minute ago, Matt said:

I think it's a fair price considering you can use it an infinite amount of times. It's also tradable. 

I actually did not know that. Okay, it's fine then lol.

[MemeDreem]

[Dia]

11 hours ago, Kokonoe said:

I don't want to have to play for a few days just to wear clothes. I want to look how I want to look from the start and play that way.

I don't see why this has to be a "money sink" or that time must be allocated to this. This isn't fun or a achievement or anything it's a inconvenience. I'd have a much more fun time looking how I want to look from the beginning and grinding out the actual content and farming rare drops and leveling up. It helps when you are constantly losing your save file from server wipes not having to repeat this process from the start.

Looking how I wish to look actually gives me incentive to play the game not looking like a hobo or something. Just saying. 

I know how ya feel... I was the same way when I first started. Not being able to roll my cutsie style did kill some fun in the beginning. But you really don't have to play for a few days. I'd say it took me around 2-3 hours of playtime to get the clothes I wanted (which were 40k, it was a whole set) and while I understand that some folks have a busy schedule, 2-3 hours is really not a lot of time!

At most, I think adding more free starting options wouldn't hurt (but that's just my thoughts)... but yeah lowering the prices is just WAY too unpopular. 

Just find a group running missions (Unsafe Passage B is best for lower levels, it's at 4th floor, back left looking at HQ, where most people do their first missions) and play it for about an hour or 2. You WILL have enough from the mission clear awards alone, and with the amount of people who run it, it won't take long, trust me.

 

Again, I didn't like having to go through a bit to get my style either, (I always have more fun when in my style from the beginning) but hey, I've played games with a whole helluva lot worse grind to try and get style. (ESO for example, now that is REALLY hard to get a good style!)

So I'll say it again. Find a group on Unsafe Passage B. Play with them or other groups for a bit (or just start one yourself) and you'll have the money in no time. You don't need to be high leveled at all to do it. The only hard enemies are the Sedaliens, (the guys that smack you with their head), and with multiple people it ain't really a problem. (should've tried going for clothes when no one had shops to buy low rank weapons... was even worse then...)

 

[KAMIGENO]

19 hours ago, Matt said:

... all my money came from vendoring B rank and A rank items.

23 hours ago, Matt said:

I made a new character last week and was able to afford a full set of clothing in less than 2 hours. 

Can you explain how you did so---how you got B and A rank items from less than 2 hours of work? Would be useful information for person(s) trying to get money early on.

[Matt]

10 hours ago, KAMIGENO said:

Can you explain how you did so---how you got B and A rank items from less than 2 hours of work? Would be useful information for person(s) trying to get money early on.

Run unsafe passage until you can do b rank, run b rank for drops. you'll probably make enough money even without drops just from the mission clear rewards. 

[TurtleHermit0]

The only things I bought in the game early on was healing items and photon charges, the rest of my Meseta went towards my clothes. I can't remember how long it took me to get enough Meseta for my clothes, but I managed to afford them on the first day of me playing the game. This was before we could get Meseta for completing missions.