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Seority

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  1. Starting to regret not having a link to the previous discussion thread that the community all added to last year since a lot of this was talked about previously, however recalling exactly what was concluded alludes me. 😓

    What I can say is that it's very unlikely that we as a community can come to any agreement on either new classes or severely altering current ones. We're a bit more democratic here on Clementine, and changes arn't generally made unless a majority of us agree to it to some degree. Perhaps this will change in the future since the PSUC development team has altered a bit, so we'll see. 

    Thank you very much for your info though! Let's hope this thread sticks around to refer to it later. 👍

  2. So as an update to my previous post, I was given contact with one of the developers for the other server and was told that they are planning on releasing a better PSU server. They will be building their own code on top of this data to do so. 

    They informed me that they are not doing this for monetary profit.

    So now we know.

  3. Google translate:
    "Any chance the server will support PS2? Because now that DamonPs2 has been banned from everyone's cell phones, the new emulator promises online play"

    No, sorry. The server does not support console play and I'm unaware if the developers are working towards console play at this time. Playing on our phones is a fun thought though! 👍

  4. 9 hours ago, Razmoudah said:

    I was actually thinking of suggesting some additional Master Types for the sole purpose of creating Types that could use the other weapons at S-Rank with Level 50 Photon Arts,

    Unfortunately, PSU's coding/system/platform is very, very restrictive. I do not believe we are able to add additional types, however we can change the current ones we have. 

    I made a suggestion awhile ago to redo the base classes to be something viable, or perhaps repurpose them for things like "Acromaster."

    9 hours ago, Razmoudah said:

    (...)though I do wish the Episode 3 story content was available, as I've never gotten a chance to play it.  

    Same here. IMO, it was the better story out of all the PSU:AOTI stories and it's sickening that Sega decided for that to be server side only. 💔

  5. 1 hour ago, TurtleHermit0 said:

     At peak times, Clementine can get over 100 players, so if they pinched half of the players away from Clementine, what have they really achieved? nothing really......

    These are people that will betray you if it means they can gain something from it, would you really want to install something on your pc made by people like that? I certainly wouldn't.

     

    We can look at this logically (aka without morals since what they did to achieve this was immoral so clearly they don't care.)

    Someone stole this data, and then sold it to someone else whom then purchased the stolen data.
    This means someone felt the data had value and subtracted from their own funds to obtain it.

    People normally spend their money on things of value to them, but that value can depend on what that person means to get from it. This usually falls into two categories: To gain more value from it, or to "show off."

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    Gain Value
    If the point of stealing&paying for Marm's data was to make more value (aka more money/profit,) then there are a few steps they will need to take in order to do so.

    Build a server using Marm's data, rent server space to host it, and find a team to help update and fix the server are just a few things needed. 

    Once the server is up and running, now they will need a player base to play to spend money on the game in order to make a profit from. How can they get players? Well, they can probably reach out to people whom have quit Clementine, people whom dislike it now, and more than likely their friends. 
    If you'd like, we can use the pareto principle to deuce how many people may possibly play their server compared to Clem's. If you're right about 100 daily players, then they should expect about 20. That's not going to be enough, I assume. 

    So now they will need to advertise their server in order to get new players to join and they will either have to promise or lie that their server is better than Clementine. They could pay for google/youtube/facebook ads, granted I don't believe their budget will get that big, so more than likely will be word of mouth through other forums or discords. 
    Now, they will need to make money of some capacity so they will need to offer boosts, privilege's or unique content in order for players to shell out. 

    Perhaps they do not wish to obtain monetary value from Marm's data that was stolen and they paid for. What would they do then?

    "Show-off"
    Although I do not know of any display cases where one can show-off a video game's data, it's possible that whomever wanted Marm's data just wanted it to have it.

    Perhaps they really just wanted a private server of their own but did not want to put in the effort to make one themselves, in which they play with themselves (lol) and their friends in their own separated world. If this is true, this seems to be quite important for them to be in control of everything since most players are happy with Clementine the way it is.

    It's possible that whomever is starting this new server simply wants to make a "better" PSU server. According to cold-hard logic, as Clementine players, if we want the best PSU server we can get, then competition is necessary. However, we are humans and believe in fair play, and someone who wins a competition by cheating cannot be labeled "a winner." If these people really wanted to compete, they should've made their own code, but we're past that now.

    For the worst option, maybe they had a vendetta against Marm and/or the Clementine staff/developers and simply wanted to harm their moral by taking his server and starting their own just to break down the community. I dislike painting people in such dark colors, but as logic dictates, I must think of every possibility as to why this happened.

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    Look, the world isn't just black and white. There's a chance the reason for doing what has been done was a little of column A and a little bit of B. All we can really gain is from the little we know. 

    The data was created and belonged to Marm. He believed the data was worth the effort and did not wish to make it or sell it for profit.
    Whomever did this did see value in Marm's data as well. Enough to steal&pay for but not enough to make their own.
    It's also very clear that they do not care about the Clementine community by these actions either, since everyone here knows how they acquired Marm's data. 

    If you are deeply concerned about this issue, then my advice is to not draw attention to it. Shed a light on it when necessary as evil only grows in the dark, but understand that if you continue mentioning it, even in a negative way, that will only help it stay relative. 

    "There's no such thing as bad publicity."
    "Never let a catastrophe go to waste."
    "Create a problem, sell the solution."

     

  6. On 1/4/2022 at 4:21 AM, Mad Sorceress said:

    Obviously... But what dose it mean in this game? Chat blocking, Party blocking, Room visit blocking, Trade blocking, or either or all?

    Not one-hundo on this, but I believe blocking someone means:

    • You will not see their chat. (Unsure if they are able to see yours.)
    • They cannot message you.
    • They cannot invite you into a party. (Unsure if you can enter into theirs.)
    • They cannot enter your rooms. (You can enter theirs.)
    • They cannot join a party that you are in. (No error message pops up, they simply are unable to join.)
    • They cannot send you a trade. (Unsure if you can send them one.)
    • Unsure if they are able to view your character's info.
    • They cannot send you their card. (You can send them your card, they will have the option to accept it or not.)
    • If they accept your card or already have it, they will (still) be able to see your location. )
    • As Souma said, blacklisting applies to the whole account. Any character on that account will be blacklisted from any characters on your account. ( ! Be careful whom you send your card to!  ! )
  7. On 1/9/2022 at 7:29 AM, Beeeeemop said:

    Don't let scummy people like soly who can't code for shit make you give up.. difference to these people and you is you fix shit... Soly will just charge people for shit... The best thing to do is release the build they leaked and just make your psu the best one. Like ephinea did.

    "We wouldn't know who the good people are in this world if there weren't bad ones."

    This community is small already so I'm utterly confused as to what those who stole the data intend to do with it. If it's to make money, they must be hoping on a prayer, in the two digit regulars who'd play their server, that there's a "whale" for private servers among them.

    If this was for personal reasons against the PSUC team, again I question the point of splitting up the players to even smaller communities. Did they really believe a majority of players were fed up with Clementine? Seems to me, at least they we're not in favor of it.

    Although the situation itself is disappointing to many of us, I'm actually glad it happened. Marm needed to leave long ago, or at least take a long break. Not because of the work he's done or who he is, but because this game has been his life for almost a decade, so him leaving is actually the best thing for him
    For the rest of us, that means we will need to be patient with game updates as the new PSUC team regroups. Also, as Gnome stated, they have lives outside of this server and therefore their time is limited.

    Wish this would have happened in a more positive circumstance, but I believe this was all for the better, in the silver lining kind of way.

  8. There was a large list of items that the PSUC team was going to be working on and these issues were addressed on there, however I'm having difficulties finding atm. For now, I will answer with what I know has been talked about before for possible solutions (nothing is guaranteed however,)

    Suggestion 1: Fixing new player retention

    There was talk about giving new accounts a set of meseta/items/boosts/etc. to help with the initial grind. Also, people suggested removing level requirements to missions so that lower levels can play higher level missions with others. We're aware that would allow for power leveling, however the problem that arose would be that people would lock their parties more to keep lower levels out, so this was an inconclusive answer.
    As far as incentivizing people to help out newbies, there was nothing that was agreed upon that would convince enough players to do so. For now, it's only from those who decide to spend their time helping others out of the goodness of their hearts.

    Suggestion 2: Cyclone Dance dmg output buff

    This is very specific issue that only pertains to a select group of players, but feel free to make a separate forum topic to discuss this further. 

    Suggestion 3: Rare drop problems

    "Missions spotlights" are basically what everyone's dailies are. You get boosts for taking down specific mobs/bosses. The idea of mission specific boosts for everyone I believe is possible, but would require a manual update each time, so not sure how much time the team is willing to sacrifice to do this.
    For drop rates, it's the Goldilocks issue. There really is no "just right" rate for rares. Luck will always be apart of it and everyone thinks they are cursed in some way or another. Discussing this issue on here or bugging the team will help not fix the problem. Making your issues known about this is fair, but please understand that it's an issue everyone has in some way or another.

    Hope this helped you out a little, and thanks for your input.

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    On 1/4/2022 at 8:13 PM, Souma said:

    The other side was people who would ask the question and then get an answer but then want to argue and try to deter a much needed update simply because it didn't gel with what they were currently farming the ever living shit out of or were more interested in making sure we didn't nerf their next big meseta grind and less concerned with how it actually effected the game and it's economy and it's playerbase in general.

    My apologies.

    Didn't want to make it seem as though there was no effort on the PSUC team's side to answer questions at all, nor that Marm shouldn't be asked questions either.

    However, I do believe having a few selected people whom questions should be directed to would have helped, more or less to bother the developers a lot less and only with important issues.

    This point of view is from someone on the outside looking in, so it's possible this is how it was all along. The issue of people asking constantly is something that should've been expected, whether those were with good intentions or otherwise. As Aelphasy stated, being more firm with these folks and requesting for them to take their issues to the forums rather than argue with the team may have helped this issue.

    Again, this is all in hind-sight. Hopefully this issue will be resolved in a better manor going forward. "You do you."

  10. Sorry to hear Marm. Most of us wished that this wasn't the outcome. This is meant as a general question, but why wasn't there a PR group for Clementine? Giving players direct access to question the main developer was probably the wrong move.

    It's in the past now but we're happy that Marm is putting his life over this game. This project is only here because of his hard work and dedication and no one will forget that.

    Best of luck to Marm and the new PSUC team.

  11. On 9/21/2021 at 9:12 PM, Emmarel said:

    Somewhat. Giving consumable PA EXP boost tickets to use at any given time, instead of server-wide, timed PA EXP boost periods, was the entire point of the suggestion. The other boosts can remain server-wide or whatever they want to do with them.

    Why do you believe PA boosts are different to EXP/drop boosts?

  12. On 9/19/2021 at 5:26 AM, Emmarel said:

    If possible, a usable consumable, boost item instead of a server-wide boost would be cool. Give X amount of 30 minute boosters when we hit Y milestone for an event or whatever occasion it may be. Full-time and third shift does not really play well with timed boosts. I would like to be able to make use of PA experience boosts to their fullest considering PA leveling is one of the most boring parts of the game.

    Thanks. : )

    So going off later posts, you mean instead of timed events with certain boosts, just give everyone consumable boosts to use as they please at certain times?

    If this is the case, it's a good idea as you say, since people can then choose when they get their boosts and which ones they want. However, that would mean that instead of getting a bunch of players logging on and playing during that certain time, some would log-in, get the consumables then log off. They'd continue to play when they want which may mean weeks or months later. The real question is, are events more about giving players boosts or boosting player count? In your opinion, which of these is more important for a private server like ours?

  13. I'd like the rates to stay for sure. Feel like I get a lot more accomplished while I play than before. However I can see how keeping these rates may dilute any boosts we may get later during events. More or less, how crazy do the boosts have to be become before they are too much? 

    On 9/16/2021 at 9:08 AM, Blandation said:

    Honestly, at that point it becomes their problem.  I work a full time job and don't play PSU as much as others either, but where do you draw that line?   Some people can only play once a month, so I should be able to get from 1-100 in one sitting?   At some point it becomes ridiculous.

     Suppose one could measure the time it takes for a brand new account to reach a point that they could solo and complete the hardest mission currently in the game would be a decent way to access how long a grind it should take for everything. This is a bit crazy to calculate since there's so many factors that go into it. Basing this outcome on simply maxing character level / class /  PAs / weapons would be over-rated since those aren't all necessary to complete missions.

    For a ballpark range, would playing 100 hours be sufficient to solo, complete and S rank the current hardest mission? (Since this player would then be able to complete every mission solo.) Just as a reference, we can use a standard work week which is 8 hours a day for 5 days, making 40 hours a week. So, would two and half weeks of straight grinding to achieve this be agreeable? Someone with less time on their hands, say 20, it would take 5 weeks to complete.  10 hours? 10 weeks. You get the picture right? Not saying we should do the math here, but as a rough estimate, we can try to understand how long it should take someone to be able to play any mission and discuss if that's reasonable or not.

  14. On 9/16/2021 at 7:55 AM, Lupophobia said:

    Dezza's broken.

    🙄

    Oh yeah, let's just nerf a PA that only 3 2 classes can use and one has max skills at 20. 

    This discussion is moot. Taking out JA's would fundamentally change melee classes just to save a second or two when attacking. Use basic attacks when you feel it's right to JA or don't. If that's too hard, play a gunner.

  15. I'm really enjoying the boosts too and wish they would stay, however there may be a fall/winter event coming up that will bring back the boosts, so they won't be gone for too long.

    (This is 100% my assumption, no one has said anything about another upcoming event. 👍 )

  16. 9 hours ago, Selphea said:

    When I switch to a melee class I have to respect so many more mechanics and the risk-reward just makes me go "ehh".

    ... if I had to choose whether to run as a Fighter or a Gunner, yes I feel dirty for saying this but of course I'd choose Gunner. 

    Isn't this why FM was the best on official damage wise? They have the highest risk to reward, as well as having to deal with loads of RNG to get a decent palette. (50% weapons and 10/10 six for each element. 😓)

    I was unware of how multiplicative the damage was when it goes against those with low DPS or any poor soul whom lacks lv 40+ buffs/debuffs. This doesn't seem right at all.

    I'm with you @Selphea. If I were to make a dps class currently, it would definitely be gun-focused for sure. Also, the yummy ATA and DFP of CASTs make them more tempting to pair with.

  17. As a player whose been playing for awhile and has a decent understanding of how to play PSU well, perhaps the damage spikes and high evasion from some of Clem's spawns is what's throwing you off. Answer would be to play a different way. Use PA's that offer lots of movement or weapons that have high ATA to ATP. Maybe a simple change of your playstyle would help with your survivability to this challenge spike. Personally, I have yet to solo a mission to where I die more than once per mission, so apologies if I don't quite understand why you're having such difficulties.

    Different missions will be easier or harder to every class. Some will be a breeze for those whom have incap abilities, while they my have to slug through other missions where incap is barely useful. The most popular missions currently are heavily effected by megid/killer shot, which makes them seem unfair, but again, that's just these missions, not all of them. @Selphea's idea of megid only proccing after a certain hp percentage is a good idea, and would make incap more a strategic use instead of pure RNG. 

    If you're being hindered by limited controls, perhaps you should change those so you can react quicker in the moment. 
    Might I suggest Midori's Controls to let you switch armor and weapons instantly as well as quick menu selection: 

    If I may ask, what missions are you having such trouble with? I only have a human capped as a AF/AT, so I can't test on exactly your race+class, but I'd like to see what you've been going through so I can come to a better understanding of these issues you're having. Thanks~

  18. Easy compared to what?

    Easier than release? Easier than official? Easier to other games?
    It's hard to stipulate what you mean by easy when there's no comparison.
    Perhaps do you mean is, "Is PSUC casual focused or hardcore focused?"

    As a quick measurement, what I believe PSUC is at the current time is:

    casual --x------- hard
    solo -x-------- group
    support: ineffective --------x- effective

    PSU in general has always been a sit back and push buttons type of game. It's no where near dungeon raiding MMOs where you need a fully stocked and balanced party to succeed. Clementine seems to follow this formula naturally, *aside from the inflated damage and evasion of current problematic spawns.

    PSU was soloable for the most part but I felt it did a good deal of balancing the rewards between solo and party groups. However, Clementine heavily focuses on solo play since there is little reason to play with a group aside from bodies to press buttons if desired. No content is locked by party necessity. 

    Support-based classes/skills/play-styles/etc are very effective. They are not nessessary since the server is very solo-friendly, but support orientated plays are very useful.

     

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    Agreed, that it's hard to speculate what should Clem be. Should it be casual focused? Completely soloable? Support effective? We also need to understand that we are not near end-game, more like 1/2 - 3/4 there, so we're basing our decisions with an "incomplete" look.

    For difficulty, meaning the necessity to play correctly and/or level of preparedness in order to complete a mission to receive rewards, PSUC staying more towards the casual in-general would stay true to what PSU is. One can play however they want and be able to complete most missions without issue. As others have stated, we get to choose the the difficulty setting we wish to approach. This is the best way to apply difficulty, make it a choice. The issue currently is not the challenge jump from S to S2 (it seems a fair difference with previously mentioned exclusions obviously,*) but rather by the rewards between the two. The possible drops we get from S2 are astronomically better than S, so there's little reason to do S unless you simply can't do S2.

    As for the solo-bias or party-bias, PSUC heavily tilts towards solo players. No content is locked out by needing to be in a party. It's mostly a preference if you choose to party or not. Now, it should be this way since it would be discriminating to those whom prefer to play by themselves, but sadly this means that the server leaves little reason for people to party up. Those whom enjoy party play will have a harder time finding a group. If we are able to change certain missions, perhaps giving huge short cuts with either buttons or locks that duos or parties could use to get through missions faster, that would incentivize people to group up without ostracizing solo-players.

    Support effectiveness isn't usually a huge proponent when talking about game difficulty, specially when one would consider it to be more of a party-play issue. However, the usefulness of a support based playstyle does matter when it comes to the generality of a party-game. Just like there are those whom wish to play alone, there are those whom wish to play only in parties. If support-minded players were ineffective, then it would drive away those players and lower the incentive of party play even more, which again is against a cooperative game like PSU. It's a very good thing this isn't currently the case for Clementine. Supports arn't needed, but highly appreciated. 

    The question shouldn't be then, "Is PSU too easy?" but rather, "Should PSU be this easy?" My question to you @Lupophobia is, when was the last time you were unable to complete a mission? When's the last time you ran out of scapes and had to return to lobby, losing your S rank for the mission (if you wanted it in the first place?) Does it take longer than an hour to finish a run? Completing missions, gaining rewards and drops is the essential point of PSU. Therefore, if it's extremely rare that you are unable to complete a mission, wouldn't you say that PSU isn't that difficult?

  19. Perhaps I haven't played enough missions solo, but the game doesn't seem as drastically hard as you are putting it. Sure, it's not a cake walk and does take some time, but things seem fairly do-able.

    My issue is when you've battled through all that mess, what you're rewarded with is frequently underwhelming. "Oh look, 4 Photons at clear boxes again." That's the main thing that kills my momentum over anything else.

    Also, I feel the same with @Selpheain which I want to use my cards and techs while I play, but then I'm cutting my dps in half if I don't soley use my dagger. It seems like certain things are so op, that you're doing something wrong if you don't play a specific way.

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